Vintage Audio
this section covers some restoration work that I did on my vintage HI-FI gear
Article #1 | 03:18 PM Saturday 12/12/2020

Sansui AU-8500: Introduction

Another Sansui amplifier.

This unit replaced the AU-7500 amplifier in my study.

Article #2 | 01:43 PM Sunday 13/12/2020

Sansui AU-8500: Technical Data

This amplifier has the following technical characteristics.

TECHNICAL PARAMETERS
ParameterValue
Continuous RMS power (both channels)64 W + 64 W (8 Ω at 1,000 Hz)
Total Harmonic Distortion<0.1% (at rated output)
Intermodulation Distortion (70 Hz : 7,000 Hz = 4:1 SMPTE method)<0.1% (at rated output)
IHF power bandwidth (each channel driven at 8 Ω)5 Hz - 40,000 Hz
Frequency Response (at normal listening level)15 Hz - 30,000 Hz +0.2 dB / -1 dB
Load Impedance4 Ω - 16 Ω
Damping Factorapproximately 50 at 8 Ω load
SemiconductorsTransistors: 58 / FET: 2 / Diodes: 33 / Zenner Diodes: 5
Power Voltage100 V, 110 V, 117 V, 127 V, 220 V, 230 V, 240 V, 250 V at 50/60 Hz
Power Consumption450 W (max) / 140 W (rated)
Dimensions / Weight140 mm (H), 500 mm (W), 347 mm (D) / 20.5 kg

Article #3 | 02:10 PM Sunday 13/12/2020

Sansui AU-8500: Parts List

I have assembled a parts list for this amplifier. As always, my restoration touches almost all of the original transistors. I don't believe that transistors actually contribute to any specific sound signature.

The schematic value corresponds to what normally can be found in the electrical schematics. The recommended value is what I used as replacement for the former part. The BP inscription signifies a bipolar capacitor. Where I found appropriate, I have chosen a film capacitor replacement instead of an electrolytic. My reasons are reliability in time. Less electrolytic capacitors, less time-ticking bombs.

Descriptions and Parts Listings

There are two non-critical power resistors underneath the steel chassis. They are used for capacitor bleeding purposes and are soldered directly on each one of the two big power supply ripple filter capacitor terminals. Since they are of carbon composition which can drift in time, I decided to replace them in my unit.

Power Supply / Chassis
IdentifierSchematicRecommendedMouser Number
R0013.3 kΩ / 2 W3.3 kΩ / 3 W71-CPF3-G-3.3K-E3
R0023.3 kΩ / 2 W3.3 kΩ / 3 W71-CPF3-G-3.3K-E3

The Power Supply and Protector board is coded F-2030-1 and is located in the front-center of the amplifier, under the black metallic cage. You can quickly recognize it due to the big protector relay and stabilizer transistor cooled by a small U-shaped aluminum radiator.

Power Supply / Protector Block (F-2030-1)
IdentifierSchematicRecommendedMouser Number
C052100 uF / 75 V100 uF / 100 V647-UKZ2A101MHM
C054220 uF / 75 V220 uF / 100 V647-UKZ2A221MHM
C055100 uF / 75 V100 uF / 100 V647-UKZ2A101MHM
C057470 uF / 16 V470 uF / 25 V647-UKZ1E471MHM
C058220 uF / 75 V220 uF / 100 V647-UKZ2A221MHM
C060220 uF / 50 V647-UKZ1H221MHM
C062220 uF / 50 V647-UKZ1H221MHM
C90147 uF / 10 V BP47 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C470MPM
C90247 uF / 10 V BP47 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C470MPM
C9061000 uF / 6.3 V1000 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E102MHD
C907100 uF / 50 V100 uF / 100 V647-UPW2A101MHD
C9081 uF / 50 V BP1 uF / 50 V FILMN/A
R0553.3 kΩ / 2 W3.3 kΩ / 3 W71-CPF3-G-3.3K-E3
R9054.7 Ω / 1 W4.7 Ω / 3 W71-CPF3-J-4.7-E3
R9064.7 Ω / 1 W4.7 Ω / 3 W71-CPF3-J-4.7-E3
TR0512SC1124KSC2690512-KSC2690AYSTU
TR0522SA706KSA1220512-KSA1220AYS
TR0542SC734KSC945512-KSC945CGTA
TR9012SC1364KSC945512-KSC945CGTA
TR9022SC1364KSC2383512-KSC2383YTA
D05110D-41N5395625-1N5395-E3/54
D05210D-41N5395625-1N5395-E3/54
D05310D-41N5395625-1N5395-E3/54
D05410D-41N5395625-1N5395-E3/54
D9071S9531N414878-1N4148
D90810D-11N5392625-1N5392-E3/54
D90910D-11N5392625-1N5392-E3/54
RL901DC24V MY-2 RelayOMRON MY2-02-DC24653-MY2-02DC24

There are two audio Driver boards in this amplifier. Each one of them is coded F-2029-1. They can be found symmetrically mounted near the big black power transistor aluminum radiators. These two boards are shielded by their respective black metallic cages. Keep in mind that from the table below, you need to double order each part.

Driver Block (F-2029-1)
IdentifierSchematicRecommendedMouser Number
C8012.2 uF / 50 V2.2 uF / 50 V BP647-UES1H2R2MDM
C80747 uF / 10 V BP47 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C470MPM
C81547 uF / 80 V47 uF / 100 V647-UKZ2A470MHM
C81747 uF / 80 V47 uF / 100 V647-UKZ2A470MHM
R8258.2 kΩ / 0.5 W8.2 kΩ / 2 WCPF28K2000JKE14
R835470 Ω / 0.5 W475 Ω / 1.75 W71-CMF704751%T1TR
R86147 Ω / 0.5 W47.5 Ω / 1.75 W71-CMF7047R500FKBF
R86347 Ω / 0.5 W47.5 Ω / 1.75 W71-CMF7047R500FKBF
R86710 Ω / 0.5 W10 Ω / 1.5 W71-CMF6510R000FKEB
R86910 Ω / 0.5 W10 Ω / 1.5 W71-CMF6510R000FKEB
R87110 Ω / 0.5 W10 Ω / 1.5 W71-CMF6510R000FKEB
R87310 Ω / 0.5 W10 Ω / 1.5 W71-CMF6510R000FKEB
R87710 Ω / 2 W10 Ω / 1.5 W71-CMF6510R000FKEB
VR8015 kΩ652-3386H-1-502LF
VR803200 Ω652-3386H-1-201LF
TR8012SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR8032SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR8052SC983KSC2383512-KSC2383YTA
TR8072SC983KSC2383512-KSC2383YTA
TR8092SC735BC337512-BC33740TA
TR8112SA562BC327512-BC32740TA
TR8132SC1124KSC2690512-KSC2690AYSTU
TR8152SA706KSA1220512-KSA1220AYS
TR8312SA706KSA1220512-KSA1220AYS

The Equalizer Block is coded F-2006A and implements the Phono preamplifier and the RIAA curve corrector. This board is left positioned, under the black metallic shield that also covers the Power Supply and Protector board. You can not miss it once you remove that heavy Faraday steel shield.

Equalizer Block (F-2006A)
IdentifierSchematicRecommendedMouser Number
C6011 uF / 50 V1 uF / 50 V FILMN/A
C6021 uF / 50 V1 uF / 50 V FILMN/A
C60310 uF / 10 V10 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C100MDM
C60410 uF / 10 V10 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C100MDM
C60747 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C470MPM
C60847 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 16 V BP647-UES1C470MPM
C61347 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 16 V647-UFG1C470MEM
C61447 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 16 V647-UFG1C470MEM
C6154.7 uF / 50 V4.7 uF / 50 V BP647-UES1H4R7MEM
C6164.7 uF / 50 V4.7 uF / 50 V BP647-UES1H4R7MEM
C6173.3 uF / 50 V3.3 uF / 50 V BP647-UES1H3R3MDM
C6183.3 uF / 50 V3.3 uF / 50 V BP647-UES1H3R3MDM
TR6012SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR6022SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR6032SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR6042SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA

The Tone Control Block is coded F-2019C and is located beneath the steel chassis, under the Power Supply and Protector board. This board is the most complicated of them all as it contains a lot of electrolytic capacitors. I list them all below. Note that TC signifies a tantalum capacitor.

Tone Control Block (F-2019C)
IdentifierSchematicRecommendedMouser Number
C70347 uF / 16 V47 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E470MDD
C70447 uF / 16 V47 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E470MDD
C70547 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E470MDD
C70647 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E470MDD
C7094.7 uF / 50 V647-UES1H4R7MEM
C7104.7 uF / 50 V647-UES1H4R7MEM
C7172.2 uF / 50 V647-UFG1H2R2MDM
C7182.2 uF / 50 V647-UFG1H2R2MDM
C71947 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E470MDD
C72047 uF / 6.3 V47 uF / 25 V647-UPW1E470MDD
C7234.7 uF / 50 V647-UES1H4R7MEM
C7244.7 uF / 50 V647-UES1H4R7MEM
C7314.7 uF / 50 V647-UES1H4R7MEM
C7324.7 uF / 50 V647-UES1H4R7MEM
C733220 uF / 35 V220 uF / 50 V647-UKZ1H221MHM
C734220 uF / 35 V220 uF / 50 V647-UKZ1H221MHM
C799220 uF / 25 V647-UKZ1E221MHM
TR7012SK30N/A
TR7022SK30N/A
TR7032SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR7042SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR7052SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR7062SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR7072SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR7082SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR7092SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR7102SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR7112SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR7122SC1313KSC1845512-KSC1845FTA
TR7132SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR7142SA726KSA992512-KSA992FTA
TR7152SC1364KSC1845512-KSC945CGTA
TR7162SC1364KSC1845512-KSC945CGTA
D70210D-11N5392625-1N5392-E3/54

There is a fair amount of work to restore this amplifier. So I cannot but advice you to take your time and observe the electrical schematics and my capacitor lists. You can stick to the original values and types or you can follow my list. It is up to you. But the results will be similar. For best results, don't be shy to replace the small signal transistors. And especially those designated as 2SA726 and 2SC1313. Your amplifier will shine again and will produce that great Sansui sound. After all, this is another top performer and will surely reward your ears.

Do not hurry, take your time and do the job once. And do it well.

Article #4 | 20:00 PM Tuesday 10/10/2017

Sansui AU-8500: Restoration

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General Considerations

I should begin by saying that working on this amplifier presents a very big health hazard. There are lethal voltages inside. Not knowing what you are doing might result in severe accidents and possibly death by electrocution. I am very skilled in electronics repair and I have been doing such repairs for almost 20 years. This qualifies me to work in this field. But if you do not have experience, please take this information just as a knowledge base. Do not attempt to repair something that you cannot handle as there is a big probability to severe it further while also suffering accidents.

Good working condition tools are also necessary for this restoration. I am using a quality temperature regulated soldering station with multiple tips for every situation that I could possibly encounter. Also I am using a good solder pump and quality desoldering wick in two sizes. Isopropyl alcohol is handy to decontaminate boards of old flux and other residues. I also use eutectic formulation quality solder. Every replacement part is brand new, from a reputable manufacturer, ordered from U.S.A., Japan, or Germany. Also I only use parts that are suitable as replacements in various sections of the amplifier, after inspecting and comprehending the original schematic. Last but not least I have the years of experience backing up every action that I take while working on this unit.

I have found out that working with a temperature of exactly 300 degrees Celsius is sane for these vintage printed circuit boards. I have never lifted a pad with this temperature. But it is also true that I never wait more than three seconds with the soldering tip on a pad. While working on the chassis, I am pumping up between 360 and 440 degrees Celsius in the soldering iron.

Flux fumes are extremely toxic and should be avoided at all costs. Especially toxic are the fumes released while working on these old Japanese electronic boards.

Power Supply / Chassis Restoration

On the chassis there are two really large filtering capacitors. I have tested these against the specifications and they are doing fine. So no replacement for these yet. On the other side, I have decided to replace the two capacitor bleeding resistors with modern DALE resistors rated 3.3 kΩ / 3 W.

Unfortunately I forgot to take pictures of the replacement parts.

F-2030-1 Power Supply / Protector Board Restoration

This board is really easy to remove but you need to note the order of the wires that are attached to it. Besides four soldered wires, all the other wires are using connectors. The four heavy duty power wires which are soldered are kind of hard to desolder even using a vacuum pump. Why is that? Because unlike the AU-9500 that I previously serviced, here the wires were looped inside the metal post holes. I edend up cutting small pieces of the loops so that I can safely remove the wires.

Beware that this board has very large ground planes so soldering and desoldering capacitors is difficult to impossible for a low power soldering tool. So good tools and a lot of precaution is necessary for a clean job.

The board prior to the restoration.

In a similar manner, everything has to go off so that I can clean the PCB and ditch the junk parts.

Dreadful Sansui glue.

Using high purity technical acetone -- dangerous for the lungs, by the way, good ventilation required -- I managed to remove the glue within about 30 minutes.

I used Nichicon MUSE KZ series capacitor replacements for the old ELNA ones. These capacitors even have the same dimensions as the original parts. So I changed the two 220 uF / 75 V capacitors with 220 uF / 100 V capacitors. Then I changed the two 100 uF / 75 V capacitors with 100 uF / 100 V parts. C057 was rated at 470 uF / 16 V. The replacement is 470 uF / 25 V. Regarding the replacements for C060 and C062, I have used the same 220 uF / 50 V rating for both of them. C907 is used as filter for the protector circuit. It was originally rated at 100 uF / 50 V. I replaced it with a Nichicon PW series part rated 100 uF / 100 V. In the protection circuit, C901 and C902 were bipolar capacitors, originally rated at 47 uF / 10 V. I replaced both of them with Nichicon ES series 47 uF / 16 V bipolar parts. C908 is a 1 uF / 50 V bipolar capacitor. I have replaced it with a Panasonic stacked film part of the same rating. C906 is part of the relay delay circuit and was originally rated at 1000 uF / 6.3 V. My replacement is a Nichicon PW series part rated at 1000 uF / 25 V.

In terms of semiconductors, I have replaced 2SC1124 with KSC2690 (TR051), 2SA706 with KSA1220 (TR052), 2SC734 with KSC945 (TR054), and 2SC1364 with KSC945 (TR901). Originally TR902 was also a 2SC1364 but I opted for a more robust KSC2383 as replacement. Diodes D051, D052, D053, and D054 were originally 10D-4 and were replaced with 1N5395. All other 10D-1 diodes (D908 and D909) were replaced with 1N5392. In addition I have replaced the 1S953 (D907) with 1N4148.

I have replaced the power resistors with DALE parts. Thus R055 was 3.3 kΩ / 2 W and I have replaced it with 3.3 kΩ / 3 W. Similarly R905 and R906, originally 4.7 Ω / 1 W were replaced with 4.7 Ω / 3 W metal film resistors.

The relay was replaced with a new OMRON MY2-02-DC24 part.

Halfway through.

PCB side cleaning. I always loved these old Sansui layouts.

The board after the job. Click the picture to enlarge it.

I have used glass spacers wherever I found appropriate.

Details.

More details.

Solder side looks great now.

That's it for this board.

F-2029 Driver Board Restoration

These two power amplifier sections are the easiest printed circuit boards to work on of them all. There are only four capacitors and two transistors to change per board. There is also a thermal fuse glued on top of a small signal transistor. If you want you can take care of removing that one too. I did as there is no apparent need for a thermal fuse in this part of the circuit. Furthermore some of these amplifiers come from the factory without thermal fuses.

Here is the board prior to refurbishing.

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F-2006A Equalizer Board Restoration

Removal of the board is extremely simple. The procedure is to first remove the two side screws holding the steel Faraday cage. The the cage itself. After that you gently pull the board upright out of its socket.

Working on this board is easy as well. There are a twelve capacitors six transistors to change. The PCB is identical to those found in Sansui AU-9500 units.

This is the board before restoration.

C601 and C602 are the input stage coupling capacitors. Originally they were 1 uF / 50 V, electrolytic. I have changed them with 1 uF / 50 V Panasonic stacked film capacitors. C603 and C604 which were originally 10 uF / 10 V were replaced with 10 uF / 16 V Nichicon ES series bipolar capacitors. C607 and C608, originally 47 uF / 6.3 V were replaced with 47 uF / 16 V Nichicon ES series bipolar counterparts. C613 and C614 are used to stabilize the static functioning point of two transistors and were originally rated at 47 uF / 6.3 V. I have used 47 uF / 16 V Nichicon FG series replacements. C615 and C616 are part of the RIAA correction network and originally were 4.7 uF / 50 V. I have replaced them with 4.7 uF / 50 V Nichicon ES series bipolar parts. The output coupling stage capacitors, originally rated at 3.3 uF / 50 V were replaced with 3.3 uF / 50 V Nichicon ES series bipolar capacitors.

Parts removed from one channel.

Details on the printed circuit board.

Halfway through.

And after.

On the back side I have renewed the solder joints.

F-2019C Tone Control Board Restoration

Removal of the board is extremely difficult. The procedure involves removing of the power supply board. Then the metallic shielding cage. After you have access to the solder side of the board which is bolted to the chassis with six screws. There is another fixing point in the left side, near the local filtering capacitors. This one requires a powerful soldering iron to detach. But this is not all. There are also a whole lot of wires attached to the solder side of this board. So I decided to let this board alone and adopt a different approach. I have positioned the amplifier so that I can easily reach the components from beneath, while having enough space to work on the solder side. It is an awkward job but the wires were untouched.

This is the board before restoration.

The local emitter decoupling capacitors C703, C704 were 47 uF / 16 V and C705, C706, C719, C720 were rated 47 uF / 6.3 V. I have used Nichicon PW series replacements rated 47 uF / 25 V for all of them. Stage coupling capacitors C709, C710, C723, C724, C731, C732 were rated 4.7 uF / 50 V. Nichicon ES series bipolar parts rated 4.7 uF / 50 V were used as replacement. I have used the same ES bipolar series for C717, C718, but rated 2.2 uF / 50 V stage coupling capacitors. The local filtering capacitors C733 and C734 were 220 uF / 35 V. I have used Nichicon MUSE KZ series capacitors rated 220 uF / 50 V. The same for C799, originally 220 uF / 25 V, now replaced with new MUSE KZ series part of the same rating.

There are a also six 2SA726 and six 2SC1313 transistors to change on this board. I have used hFE matched pairs as before. In my unit the first preamplification stage was very noisy. It is constructed around two 2SK30 FET transistors. I have used NOS Toshiba 2SK30Y replacements. There are also two 2SC1364 transistors on this board. I have replaced these with KSC945 transistors which apparently work very well in this circuit.

This board concludes the replacement of parts in this audio amplifier.

Aftermath

Old parts.

This is everything that I did on this amplifier.

If you will

Please note that all the work presented herein this site is non-commercial. This is my hobby and I am doing this in my spare time. Through this page I freely share my knowledge with you. But if you like my work, please consider helping me buy a transistor or a capacitor for my projects.

Thank you!

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